EVALUATE THE GROUP PLEASE

I want to raise two questions for consideration by the group.

The first question is about the sort of posts that have been made.  Almost all of the posts have come from either Martha or Roger.  Let me break this up into separate parts:

 

Is the reading level too hard for most of our base group or are you finding these easy to read?

Is the subject matter of the articles interesting, or would you like different material.  If you would like different material, what subjects are of more interest?

The second question is of a different nature.  It has to do with an evaluation of the group so far.  If we think it is growing at a proper pace then we should go along as we have been, and make no changes.

If we want to enlarge the group somewhat, we can remove the first password and allow anyone to come in and read the questions and comments, and to make comments, but not to be able to post new questions.  They would also not be members of Bright Lights. 

 

This has the potential of adding a more international flavor to the discussion.  It also allows us to perhaps find new members who we might not otherwise meet.

 

There are other ways to make changes, and perhaps there are suggestions  about the group that people here can come up with that we should consider.

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  • #1

    Ponyo (Sunday, 25 July 2010 08:13)

    I have a wide range of interests.and i like every
    kinds of articles.some articles a bit diffcult for me.
    because i don't have a english environment during
    my job,i only have a few times talk to roger and
    martha everyday.that give me a lot of help.
    about the posts stuff.i think i'll send it later,
    use my chinglish,of course,i know you can Correct
    me lol.

  • #2

    Kate (Tuesday, 27 July 2010 09:36)

    I've come up with some ideas and about to disscuss with you but unfortunatly you are off line.Here we go.
    To make our space brighter and have a sense of belonging ourselves,I wanna suggest some columns:
    First of all,add some membere's peresonal space links.This way sppeals to us to learn others much better.
    Secondly,add a book or event sharing where we can post daily news around us.But to declare "no religion no politics".
    Thirdly,we can share the life of our living place with photos.
    Last,we gather questions if problems come when using Jimdo.And solve them immediately.
    What do you think?

  • #3

    discussiongroup (Wednesday, 28 July 2010 16:08)

    From Roger

    Let me talk about the last one first:
    gather questions if problems come when using
    Jimdo.And solve them immediately.

    It has two parts. I like you idea of grouping Jimdo problems together. So I have set up a FAQJimdo group for this purpose. It is set up to bring together topics having FAQ Jimdo tags. To start it off I have tagged all of the introductory comments that have been made regarding Jimdo.

    The second part, however, is not so easy to solve. IMMEDIATELY. We have time zone problems and problems with normal living that keep us from responding immediately. Eric is the most knowledgeable in this area. He will be happy to help you with any problems when he can – but he is out in oil fields much of the time and can’t run to the computer to solve a Jimdo problem. Also, of course I will help as much as I can. And if others have had experiences that can be applied they will help whenever possible.

    Next, I’ll try to talk about the second one:
    Secondly,add a book or event sharing where we can
    post daily news around us.But to declare "no
    religion no politics".

    This one also has two parts. If I understand what you are thinking of, that is what the Bright Lights QQ group was set up for, so you can chat there with everyone about daily news.

    The second part is a little more of a sticky wicket. This group was set up to be different from English Share. English Share has a rule about religion and politics. This group was seen as a group where rational people can talk rationally about religion and politics if they want. It was seen as a group without restrictions on thought and speech. I am sorry if I did not make that clear enough. Of course it is also understood that conversations must remain mannerly and can’t be offensive. By example, the USA has done many things wrong internationally and domestically – and we can discuss them. However angry belittlement of USA would not be permitted. And the same standards would be maintained in the area of religion. Again, by example, if a member of the group is a member of the Aboriginal Religion in Australia, it is assumed that they will not try to convert us – or berate either the presence of our religion or the lack of our religious beliefs.

    The first of the points was:
    First of all,add some membere's peresonal space
    links.This way sppeals to us to learn others much
    better.

    I am not sure what you mean here. Perhaps I am misunderstanding, but the idea of the Qqzones comes to my mind. Anyone wanting to set one up should do so, and give the people here permission to visit the Qzone.

    The third point is
    we can share the life of our living place with photos.

    That is a great idea, and it is certainly possible to set up. A page can be made for photos. Then any member can add an item (Photo, Photo with Text, or Photo Gallery) and put the photo(s) on that page. The question of whether it should be left to everyone posting there or whether there should be one person responsible for it is open.

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A Look At 19th Century Children In The USA

PHILADELPHIA — DINNER with your children in 19th-century America often required some self-control. Berry stains in your daughter’s hair? Good for her. Raccoon bites running up your boy’s arms? Bet he had an interesting day.

 

As this year’s summer vacation begins, many parents contemplate how to rein in their kids. But there was a time when Americans pushed in the opposite direction, preserved in Mark Twain’s cat-swinging scamps. Parents back then encouraged kids to get some wildness out of their system, to express the republic’s revolutionary values.

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By JON GRINSPAN MAY 31, 2014

 

A late 19th century family taking a stroll down a set of railroad tracks
A late 19th century family taking a stroll down a set of railroad tracks

American children of the 19th century had a reputation. Returning British visitors reported on American kids who showed no respect, who swore and fought, who appeared — at age 10 — “calling for liquor at the bar, or puffing a cigar in the streets,” as one wrote. There were really no children in 19th-century America, travelers often claimed, only “small stuck-up caricatures of men and women.”

 

This was not a “carefree” nation, too rough-hewed to teach proper manners; adults deliberately chose to express new values by raising “go-ahead” boys and girls. The result mixed democracy and mob rule, assertiveness and cruelty, sudden freedom and strict boundaries. Visitors noted how American fathers would brag that their disobedient children were actually “young republicans,” liberated from old hierarchies. Children were still expected to be deferential to elders, but many were trained to embody their nation’s revolutionary virtues. “The theory of the equality” was present at the ballot box, according to one sympathetic Englishman, but “rampant in the nursery.”

 

Boys, in particular, spent their childhoods in a rowdy outdoor subculture. After age 5 or so they needed little attention from their mothers, but were not big enough to help their fathers work. So until age 10 or 12 they spent much of their time playing or fighting.

 

The writer William Dean Howells recalled his ordinary, violent Ohio childhood, immersed in his loose gang of pals, rarely catching a “glimpse of life much higher than the middle of a man.” Howells’s peers were “always stoning something,” whether friends, rivals or stray dogs. They left a trail of maimed animals behind them, often hurt in sloppy attempts to domesticate wild pets.

 

And though we envision innocents playing with a hoop and a stick, many preferred “mumbletypeg” — a game where two players competed to see who could throw a knife closer to his own foot. Stabbing yourself meant a win by default.

 

Left to their own devices, boys learned an assertive style that shaped their futures. The story of every 19th-century empire builder — Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt — seems to begin with a striving 10-year-old. “Boy culture” offered training for the challenges of American manhood and a reprieve before a life of labor.

 

But these unsupervised boys also formed gangs that harassed the mentally ill, the handicapped and racial and ethnic minorities. Boys played an outsize role in the anti-Irish pogroms in 1840s Philadelphia, the brutal New York City draft riots targeting African-Americans during the Civil War and attacks on Chinese laborers in Gilded Age California. These children did not invent the bigotry rampant in white America, but their unrestrained upbringing let them enact what their parents mostly muttered.

 

Their sisters followed a different path. Girls were usually assigned more of their mothers’ tasks. An 8-year-old girl would be expected to help with the wash or other physically demanding tasks, while her brother might simply be too small, too slow or too annoying to drive the plow with his father. But despite their drudgery, 19th-century American girls still found time for tree climbing, bonfire building and waterfall-jumping antics. There were few pretty pink princesses in 19th-century America: Girls were too rowdy and too republican for that.

 

So how did we get from “democratic sucklings” to helicopter parents? Though many point to a rise of parental worrying after the 1970s, this was an incremental change in a movement that began a hundred years earlier.

 

In the last quarter of the 19th century, middle-class parents launched a self-conscious project to protect children. Urban professionals began to focus on children’s vulnerabilities. Well-to-do worriers no longer needed to raise tough dairymaids or cunning newsboys; the changing economy demanded careful managers of businesses or households, and restrained company men, capable of navigating big institutions.

 

Demographics played a role as well: By 1900 American women had half as many children as they did in 1800, and those children were twice as likely to live through infancy as they were in 1850. Ironically, as their children faced fewer dangers, parents worried more about their protection.

 

Instead of seeing boys and girls as capable, clever, knockabout scamps, many reconceived children as vulnerable, weak and naïve. Reformers introduced child labor laws, divided kids by age in school and monitored their play. Jane Addams particularly worked to fit children into the new industrial order, condemning “this stupid experiment of organizing work and failing to organize play.”

 

There was good reason to tame the boys and girls of the 19th century, if only for stray cats’ sake. But somewhere between Jane Addams and Nancy Grace, Americans lost track of their larger goal. Earlier parents raised their kids to express values their society trumpeted.

 

“Precocious” 19th-century troublemakers asserted their parents’ democratic beliefs and fit into an economy that had little use for 8-year-olds but idealized striving, self-made men. Reformers designed their Boy Scouts to meet the demands of the 20th century, teaching organization and rebalancing the relationship between play and work. Both movements agreed, in their didactic ways, that playtime shaped future citizens.

 

Does the overprotected child articulate values we are proud of in 2014? Nothing is easier than judging other peoples’ parenting, but there is a side of contemporary American culture — fearful, litigious, controlling — that we do not brag about but that we reveal in our child rearing, and that runs contrary to our self-image as an open, optimistic nation. Maybe this is why sheltering parents come in for so much easy criticism: A visit to the playground exposes traits we would rather not recognize.

 

There is, however, a saving grace that parents will notice this summer. Kids are harder to guide and shape, as William Dean Howells put it, “than grown people are apt to think.” It is as true today as it was two centuries ago: “Everywhere and always the world of boys is outside of the laws that govern grown-up communities.” Somehow, they’ll manage to go their own way.

 

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A National Endowment for the Humanities fellow at the Massachusetts Historical Society who is writing a book on the role of young people in 19th-century American democracy.

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HONG KONG — His son landed contracts to sell equipment to state oil fields and thousands of filling stations across China. His son’s mother-in-law held stakes in pipelines and natural gas pumps from Sichuan Province in the west to the southern isle of Hainan. And his sister-in-law, working from one of Beijing’s most prestigious office buildings, invested in mines, property and energy projects.

 

In thousands of pages of corporate documents describing these ventures, the name that never appears is his own: Zhou Yongkang, the formidable Chinese Communist Party leader who served as China’s top security official and the de facto boss of its oil industry.





A visitor at the Zhou family's ancestral graves in Xiqliantou, eastern China.  Intrigue surrounds the family after a spate of arrests.  Sim Chi Yim for the New York Times
A visitor at the Zhou family's ancestral graves in Xiqliantou, eastern China. Intrigue surrounds the family after a spate of arrests. Sim Chi Yim for the New York Times

But President Xi Jinping has targeted Mr. Zhou in an extraordinary corruption inquiry, a first for a Chinese party leader of Mr. Zhou’s rank, and put his family’s extensive business interests in the cross hairs.

 

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By Ta-Nehisi Coates

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  2. II.  “A Difference of Kind, Not Degree”
  3. III. “We Inherit Our Ample Patrimony”
  4. IV. “The Ills That Slavery Frees Us From”
  5. V. The Quiet Plunder
  6. VI. Making The Second Ghetto
  7. VII. “A Lot Of People Fell By The Way”
  8. VIII. “Negro Poverty is not White Poverty”
  9. IX. Toward A New Country
  10. X. “There Will Be No ‘Reparations’ From Germany”
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As this year’s summer vacation begins, many parents contemplate how to rein in their kids. But there was a time when Americans pushed in the opposite direction, preserved in Mark Twain’s cat-swinging scamps. Parents back then encouraged kids to get some wildness out of their system, to express the republic’s revolutionary values.

The New York Times

Sunday Review

By JON GRINSPAN MAY 31, 2014

 

A late 19th century family taking a stroll down a set of railroad tracks
A late 19th century family taking a stroll down a set of railroad tracks

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HONG KONG — His son landed contracts to sell equipment to state oil fields and thousands of filling stations across China. His son’s mother-in-law held stakes in pipelines and natural gas pumps from Sichuan Province in the west to the southern isle of Hainan. And his sister-in-law, working from one of Beijing’s most prestigious office buildings, invested in mines, property and energy projects.

 

In thousands of pages of corporate documents describing these ventures, the name that never appears is his own: Zhou Yongkang, the formidable Chinese Communist Party leader who served as China’s top security official and the de facto boss of its oil industry.





A visitor at the Zhou family's ancestral graves in Xiqliantou, eastern China.  Intrigue surrounds the family after a spate of arrests.  Sim Chi Yim for the New York Times
A visitor at the Zhou family's ancestral graves in Xiqliantou, eastern China. Intrigue surrounds the family after a spate of arrests. Sim Chi Yim for the New York Times

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